PART
ONE
SATANISM AND FASCISM
OR SATANISM VERSUS FASCISM
1. INTRODUCTION
Satanic
Reds PRESENTATION of an old issue rehashed anew:
What
prompted this? Actually a lot of murmuring was afoot for quite some time all over
the "Satanic Realm." As a matter of fact, "Satanic Reds" was
planned three years ago, Ole Wolf even made a logo for it back then. It was finally
made with humor in mind, at first, to counter this very thing: Fascist Satanists!
And there are articles up here to read, some are funny (Stalin didn't tolerate
no LOOTerz) and some are very heavy and serious (On Contradiction).
But
then Mr. Timothy S. Epperhart ("Stewart" or "WolfAtHart"),
of the COS (and, at the time, part of John Davis Xloptuny's SCS) first heard of
the "ideal of Fascism" being Satanic, and he questioned it. He posted
an email about it on LttD and on alt.satanism and received two responses. He later
broached the subject again in the #satannet chatroom only to be met with rebuffs
and harsh treatment, some of which was posted on alt.satanism. Then he came to
#satanmuse and the whole thing took off like a rocket with a lot of enthusiasm
and fun.
As you will see, this
is an old issue but now it's being approached again with some new voices to be
heard. Stewart apparently had not heard of or read any of the previous articles
on this issue (which we surely had much familiarity with). Stewart's idea was
to embark on his "project one," but his inability to grasp what constituted
censorship versus free speech caused it to stagnate and languish, not to mention
gain the ire of all who wrote for it. He really did not want any pro-fascist views!
He claimed he wanted open opinions and that he'd print all, but then he wanted
to "approve" them and well, that didn't quite work out. Non fascists
will not be dictated to: or approved for opinions or censored by someone who can't
write.
We, on the other hand,
searched for fascist-satanist articles and they now appear here with credit given
and some editorial notes (clearly delineated). As a result of hemming and hawing
and drama none of us will tolerate for long, this will be presented in its entirety,
with submissions from everyone that wanted to have their say on the issue intact,
and who told us here at SReds to "keep it, put it up." Stewart's own
project will, when ready, appear on his own website when he can make one. We at
SReds do not like drama or problems when something should go smoothly. We at SReds
also do not tolerate stupid people for long.
The
gist of the matter is: "What do YOU think about Nazis or Fascists being related
to Satanists as an Ideal?" Or: "What is the Ideal of Fascism within
the Satanic movement?" That is the core question.
What
follows are some articles on this issue and then, later on in Part Two, many entertaining
emails that were submitted for the intent of voicing open opinions. All the emails
herein were part of what turned into an e-list mass correspondence. This correspondence
has been left intact but made clear by putting the name of the specific person
atop what he or she wrote. These often appear within the responses of another
person. No one wrote any part of this except the portions they themselves
wrote as articles or answered as emails.
Everyone
questions the use of the Hakenkreuz (literally "twisted Cross" or a
Swastika) as a Satanic symbol and so have many others before. Well, I'm sure people
would question the use of a hammer and sickle too; as shown on this website, but
why would they question the use of these symbols which are political? They'd
be questioning the political preferences of a particular Satanist. Over the years
we have personally met and corresponded with "Nazi" (National Socialist)
Satanists, Fascist Satanists, and Communist/Socialist Satanists. Most of them
are smart enough to separate their politics from their philosophical or religious
views. It is absurd to consider a political party "Satanic." All
Fascists in Italy were Catholic. Does that mean that Catholicism is Fascist?
Gee! The Maryknoll Nuns would certainly be surprised to hear that! Some Jews are
Zionists, others are Liberals. The point is, political symbols are not
Satanic symbols at all. They are political symbols of the 20th century
and nothing more . Technically, the Swastika, previous to its use as the Hakenkreuz
by Adolf Hitler, was 1. a Naga (Turanian and American Indian) mystical symbol
of the spinning cosmos; 2. the Hermetic seal of Hermetic cults and Freemasons,
and 3. an Aryan sun symbol. It is as ancient as early H.sapiens cave drawings
and was never political.
There
are many Satanists that share an angle on this entire trend (herd trendiness?)
for that is all it really is these days since herd politics are swinging
toward the extreme political Right. Many question whether or not we should see
Satanists in white robes, burning crosses as the USA's Ku Klux Klan does, and
wearing the Swastika which we all see today as a symbol connected to the murder
of people who rose to the top of German society, only to be turned into a demonic
scapegoat exterminated by rampaging Nazis. In other words, it is a symbol inextricably
associated with RACISM!
We would
point out that "such deeds" have been committed by many people from
many political persuasions, including modern Liberals and capitalists, and whether
they do the deeds directly or indirectly matters not: people suffered and perished
due to their policies and deeds. Many leaders use religion as a rallying point
to inflame the passions of the herd. This is not new.
It
is the personal opinion of the SReds, for this website, that all of this
misses the point entirely, but it makes for some very interesting reading and
it was a LOT OF FUN getting into it when it seemed like an e-list conversation.
When it stopped being fun due to the overbearing attitude of one person, Stewart,
we simply took out everything "by him" and decided to present the entire
rest of it for anyone interested in this subject; the green light to "go
for it" was given by the writer of almost every email, the one person who
objected has had his portion removed. Sure a Satanist can be a National Socialist
(Nazi). Why not? Satanists can be Communists, too. Why not? They can be Libertarians
or either Reform Party or Democrats or Republicans. Why not? One has nothing to
do with the other, in our opinion at this website. Politics are formed from the
physical conditions, working conditions, living conditions, in the specific societal
niche (the neighborhood) we live in. Just as a Catholic or a Jew can be all these
things politically, so can a Satanist. To say that the politics ARE "Satanic"
is the error.
This, however,
is not the trend we are seeing at all within Satanic circles, nor is it really
what Stewart and so many others are and were objecting to. And they are:
OBJECTING! Let me make this clear right now: this is NOT a "CoS Corporation"
issue. Satanism is not confined to the Corporate entity known as the Church of
Satan!
What are they all objecting
to? And where is the confusion? As we see it, one basis for the "confusion"
is that Peter Gilmore, who spoke on this "issue," and Peggy Nadramia
in her article (see later) talked about the "Fascism" of some Satanists
(presumably in the CoS) being a play targeted to some supposedly-shocked non-Satanist
masses. Well, in reality, this "Fascism" is primarily being targeted
at other Satanists and also at Satanists within the organization CoS! This
has been happening online and it is our opinion that online is only a spill over
of what goes on in real life. There is a natural reaction to this kind of "game,"
so the "confusion" of those now being accused of supporting these bullies
(given the name "Fascist Faction" by themselves and others) may be a
conscious defense. Thus Peter Gilmore himself (or those he identifies with) must
feel they are the targets of accusations. (In fact, it came down to that with
ANGER ruling the day.)
This "Fascism"
is not political at all with most Satanists, since most of those "Fascists"
being accused are literally political idiots! But it is a psychological
power game of posing as a Superior, not to the outside non-Satanists but to people
within the organizations. It is nothing but the bully mentality in action
and probably being done by people who were all "Omega Wolves"
in high school, either ugly boys, losers who couldn't get girls, or ugly, misshapen
women! (If I were to make a picture gallery of some of the most outspoken of these
so-called "Fascists," you'd LAUGH and beg us to take down the photos!)
The bullies expect blind obedience to the self-proclaimed pseudo-authority. There
is no joy in any of this - it is horribly compulsive. It is a fantasy, a pipe
dream, and self-denial on the part of those playing the role of serfs! Its only
purposes, as anyone not involved seeing this can imagine are: 1) To defend the
incompetence of the top of the hierarchy; 2) To defend the incompetence of self;
3) To serve as a kinky, perhaps vicarious, S&M power-game; or 4) To serve
the weaknesses of those with a mental imbalance. Only #3 is "valid"
in any real way, and even in that case it should be noted that the targets are
other unwilling Satanists. It is only a matter of time that these unwilling
Satanists will find another "spokesperson" they think has clout and
COMPLAIN about it. Which is, indeed, exactly what happened. It is for this
reason that this website will present these essays and comments.
Why
Stewart independently chose to embark upon his Project One while he was a member
of the Satanic Combat Society run by John Davis (Xloptuny), is another matter.
We don't know why. Why he sabotaged his own project is another matter and we at
SReds don't really care about that.
